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Extra Secondaries...

Post by Cairon » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:30 pm

Ahoy all,

I noticed on the server we have altered a lot of the guns, adding and removing some such as the L1A1. I have tested all current secondary weapons to an extent and found only 2 of them seem to be commonly used, the M9 and the Makarov which narrows the selections as the M1911 Colt type gun has crazy recoil and the Model 10 is.... well, the Model 10. I thought maybe we should look into some modded weapons which I have seen previously on some other servers. They seem to attract a lot of people as they offer some differences which fits right in with =EBS='s style as there is to my belief no server like ours. I thought it perhaps best to introduce a new secondary on some of the classes, if not all to introduce something new.

This new secondary I feel would have to be tested to ensure it is not too game-changing and perhaps has some handicap. All my suggestions are in the best interest of the server and =EBS=, all feedback is welcomed!

Thanks, Cairon ;)
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Re: Extra Secondaries...

Post by UncleRedDevil » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:57 pm

A great suggestion.
Would be awesome to see some additional secondary weapons available. Seen a few servers over the years that allow two primary guns which is a little meh...
Wouldn't mind another primary shotty variant though. :roll:

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Re: Extra Secondaries...

Post by Ztranier » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:31 am

actually DarkD is already working on sidearm changings

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Post by DarkDeamon » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:14 am

I know what Cairo is on about, different weapons.

There are two ways to do this....
1. Re-skin current weapons which is the easiest method but can cause issues as it takes the original weapon out of the game.
Example being the SA80 mod which re-skins the M4
2. Add a complete new weapon which takes a lot of time as it needs theater files as well as graphics & sound. All the files have to be available on the server and downloadable for the clients.

If you truly want to add new/different weapons then option 2 is the only real way to do it. Getting hold of the required files for option 2 of the developer is usually a bugger. The theatre file alone can run to 1000+ lines of code to define weapon, performance, ammo and ancillaries. I've tried a few of these In the past and not had much success as I couldn't get hold of/generate all the required files.

If you can either get me the files I need for option 2 or agree a list of weapons you are happy to lose and then point me at working re-skins then I'll do option 1.
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Re: Extra Secondaries...

Post by taran » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:22 pm

there is option 3 and add a custom weapons theater from somewhere else, but we would loose any control of it.
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Post by DarkDeamon » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:52 am

Problem with option 3 is that 80% of the good theaters i've seen for that are no longer supported. The guy has been a skinner and found it easy then gone for a full mod, developed it, found it a complete bitch and then done nothing further. When NWI then break things, you can't get it fixed.

I have a template somewhere in my archive for what's needed, I'll see if I can dig it out and post the info here along with my notes. One of our more programming orientated loonies may want to have a stab at it!
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Re: Extra Secondaries...

Post by DarkDeamon » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:23 am

Guys,
Have a look at http://www.insgamer.com/inventory-all.php and see what you think.

Have a play on the servers to test the loadouts. I'm not sure I'd want the theater's as is but If I can get a copy of the files, I can tweak.
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Re: Extra Secondaries...

Post by Ztranier » Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:14 am

wow, thats fucking lots of material to work with

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Re: Extra Secondaries...

Post by taran » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:59 am

we could just use there 12 man theater file

it is a bit overkill but easy to do
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Re: Extra Secondaries...

Post by DarkDeamon » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:12 pm

I'm going to try grab a copy of their theatre & files this afternoon if I can to dissect them.
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