Man With Hitler Speech as Ringtone Faces Jailtime (DE)

[WolfandAngel]

Back in the early days of cell phones, it was all about just picking a ringtone that came with the phone. Then came polyphonic ringtones, and things got a little more musical. These days, however, you can have anything you want as your ringtone, as long as it's in some kind of digital file format.

Having a custom ringtone can be a form of expression about who you are, which is great, unless you're a Nazi. A German man now faces up to six months in prison for his ringtone – a recording of a speech given by Adolf Hitler regarding the "destruction of world Jewry," which passengers aboard a Hamburg train heard several times throughout the journey, the Telegraph reported.

After being taken into custody at the end of the train line, police found in his possession swastika stickers and photos of Hitler on his phone with the words "The greatest commander of all time."

The German constitution expressly forbids public displays of the Nazis and their works.

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[Chabo]

saw that on swedish news some days ago, pi$$ed myself in laughter

[tads60]

If you think about it though, and delete this if inappropriate, Hitler was a great leader. He brought germany out of their poverty like state, and lead the germans to victory against a fair bit of the world. It wasn't until 2 huge nations, i.e russia and USA, and a little pair of islands that were nearly unattackable got together where they stalled, then pushed back with the help of resistance from the conquered nations. Granted, he was a little cuckhoo, but he was also a very good leader, even if it was built on the wrong foundations.
Just my 2 pence. Ask me if you want this deleted and your not an SWO or above.

[Lex.]

Tads, he was a great speech maker, not a great leader. It was his oratory ability that decieved the majority of the German people into believing the nazi party was right for them. You could say the same thing about Stalin and he killed millions to achieve his goals. A great leader is one who promotes peace and works to achieve that goal. Hitler was not a great man, but an evil coward who corrupted an enitre nation for his own sense of self-worth and national pride.

[tads60]

But without those that create the wars that disturb the peace, how can there be great leaders who promotes peace in a then peaceful world?

Don't take me wrong, I know what he did was not good, but he was great at the time, to his people, and to start with before he went anti-jew.

[Lex.]

That makes no sense dude care to elaborate?

[tads60]

If there were no wars, all would be peaceful, yeah? Therefore, there would be no need for leaders to promote peace, as there would be none that thought to change the world away from it's peaceful state. That any better? xD

[Lex.]

I see what you are trying to say, but Hitler and his party served their nation for their own ends and their own ideas. They ruthlessly hunted down and killed anyone who opposed them. When the war started to go wrong for them, they forced men into combat or shot them if they refused.

Hitler and the nazi's did bring germany out of economic decline and made them a world power, but they brought destruction on germany and all its people a million times worse than what they were suffering before. Therefore, it would be an absolute tragedy to think of this man as being a great leader. The same goes for Stalin, Pol Pot, etc etc.

There will never be a time when there a no wars, good leadership and governments are what prevent there from being more large scale wars. look at JFK and how he handled a potential third world war being unleashed. he was hardly a saint, but when the chips were down he sought peace and a compromise for everyone's benefit. he sought to heal scars and misgivings between nations, that is what a great leader is about, someone who will says, "please help me to make the world a better place", not someone who says "do as we say and think what we want you to think or we'll kill you and your family".

See the difference?

[tads60]

Yes, i see your side of the point, but how many ways are there to truly control a nation? Money, terror, and choice. With choice you do not truly control a nation, yet some people think this is good. Fair enough. Some places have tried ruling a nation by using money. this works, until money supplies run out, or money becomes useless. However, terror, you can control a nation fully. I don't agree with this in the slighest, but it works. If faced with a question of 'Do this or i shoot you', many will say shoot me then. that's threatening. however, if you want to control a single person, take a person close to them, then threaten to shoot them. It works. Just do that a thousand times over, then you control a group. A million, a nation. That, from what i understand, is what hitler did. And if you think about it, if the US, england and russia, + the resistances, hadn't fought back, we wouldn't be having this conversation in this language, and we also wouldn't be thinking like this metaphorically. However, we would be peaceful, but uncontent. Some people wish for total peace, but, if everyone's honest, terror seems to be the only way for total peace, and then only after a war.
But what would be worse, a huge war, millions killed, then no wars, or a no huge war, just little ones like we currently have in Iraq etc, which would still kill millions, just slower?
Just to say again, I AM AGAINST what hitler did, but think this through with an open mind.

[Lex.]

I do have an open mind and think about everything that way. i completely understand what you are trying to say and that you don't advocate it or agree with it. Just to kind of condense my point, what you are saying can be likened to this - a mass murderer is someone you wouldn't call great, yes? just because they were great at killing people doesn't hide the wrongness and total lack of morality in what they did. to say that hitler was great is to deny the issue of what he did when he was in power. the ends never justify the means and if you were to apply the term of greatness to a leader you have to take all of this into account.